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Kia may be best brand for skinflint car owners

MSNBC -- There are plenty of bargain-priced cars, trucks and crossovers, but that doesn’t always mean they add up to a good deal. Smart shoppers know there are lots of ways costs can quickly get out of control when you own a car, from insurance to fuel economy to maintenance and repairs.

And that’s why a new study from Kelly Blue Book is focusing on what really matters: the total cost of ownership. And there, the data-tracking website concludes, Kia is the clear standout as the top brand among all manufacturers when the entire ownership experience is tallied up. Audi was the No. 1 luxury brand when measured by total cost of ownership.

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kkimes All-Star Author Illinois Posts:852 Points:1,184,570 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 1:06:38 AM Ignore kkimes Report Abuse "Kia cars are built by Hyundai and they're not bad these days. They might even be reasonably inexpensive to run." Kia and Hyundai are owned by the same parent company and built on similar platforms but Kias are not built by Hyundai.
Double_Golden All-Star Author San Francisco Posts:745 Points:244,780 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 12:50:32 AM Ignore Double_Golden Report Abuse ok
alterman156 Champion Author New York Posts:5,625 Points:1,196,900 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 12:23:36 AM Ignore alterman156 Report Abuse Kia cars are built by Hyundai and they're not bad these days. They might even be reasonably inexpensive to run.
PCWHIZ Sophomore Author Denver Posts:133 Points:156,710 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:17:12 PM Ignore PCWHIZ Report Abuse I like their hamster commercials
ObieDog All-Star Author Maryland Posts:981 Points:528,220 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 1:04:54 PM Ignore ObieDog Report Abuse Who thought anything could displace the Tata?
Dr Gas Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,654 Points:315,575 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 12:37:38 PM Ignore Dr Gas Report Abuse My cost to ownership is not even close to being that high? $35000 plus, really? Bought a 2005 Malibu, in 2008 for $10000. Had to make one repair at $300. Gets 30mpg and is a good drive. In 2015 when it hits 10 years, I might get rid of it. So far it's been 3 years, and even though I don't know oil change prices, I'd guess on average the yearly cost is $3500 and every year I own it that price will drop! Some people just don't know how to save!
WalkingWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,379 Points:510,120 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 12:15:33 PM Ignore WalkingWV Report Abuse Could be, but with skinflint comes nitpick and these type of owners drive themselves nuts over the cheapest Kia Rio. I see a lot of 5 yr old Kias needing new engines.
Palantas Sophomore Author Indianapolis Posts:153 Points:152,570 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 11:29:47 AM Ignore Palantas Report Abuse I still don't a Kia.
TruthMatters All-Star Author New Jersey Posts:933 Points:201,620 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:54:16 AM Ignore TruthMatters Report Abuse The reliability history of the brand is still dubious so I'll hold off the endorsement for now.
gasrat6083 Champion Author Long Island Posts:1,693 Points:838,960 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:49:01 AM Ignore gasrat6083 Report Abuse Kia, hmm... But I like my Hyundai. And I love my Ford.
Norm10 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:1,848 Points:90,545 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:43:59 AM Ignore Norm10 Report Abuse Good products at a resonable price - maybe the big three should take note.
Goatroper Champion Author Dallas Posts:5,184 Points:1,012,475 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:29:57 AM Ignore Goatroper Report Abuse I'm not a skinflint. I'm just ver ver thrifty.
blupupher Champion Author Houston Posts:1,698 Points:420,115 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:16:34 AM Ignore blupupher Report Abuse The Koreans are making headway.
rjojo40 Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:4,603 Points:724,735 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:04:30 AM Ignore rjojo40 Report Abuse sounds like a nice car, but have to stick with Chevrolet.
hiwayhauler Sophomore Author Texas Posts:192 Points:99,965 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:00:45 AM Ignore hiwayhauler Report Abuse KIA? My brother-in-law owned a Kia when he was in the military 5-6 years ago...said he would never own one again. Maybe they've changed but I don't think I'd ever own one myself.....
SRcyclist Rookie Author San Diego Posts:39 Points:572,030 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 9:15:48 AM Ignore SRcyclist Report Abuse How can they estimate cost of ownership for new models with unknown reliability?
dgerst Champion Author South Carolina Posts:1,036 Points:224,290 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 9:08:43 AM Ignore dgerst Report Abuse And their warrantee is great. I got a new transmission on a five year old car.
GingoutMD Champion Author Maryland Posts:2,669 Points:546,455 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 8:21:32 AM Ignore GingoutMD Report Abuse The TCO for vehicles has been a buzz word for over ten years and I have used it when buying my last two vehicles. It is not the only factor, but did come into play when narrowing the field down from the three finalist.
doeslayersr Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,826 Points:511,175 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 8:04:51 AM Ignore doeslayersr Report Abuse What about the best car for red necks and crackers? What else would you expect in a title from MSNBC?
robaloma All-Star Author Houston Posts:806 Points:332,170 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 8:02:55 AM Ignore robaloma Report Abuse ok
johntxx All-Star Author Texas Posts:698 Points:256,975 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 7:56:37 AM Ignore johntxx Report Abuse Had a '05 Kia Sonata. Great vehicle for the $'s--heated leather seats, moon roof, temp control ac/heat, all for ~$25k. Handled well with plenty of acceleration and not bad gas mileage for a SUV. Currently driving a '11 Hyundai Elantra. Same heated leather seats, moon roof, but no temp control ac/heat for ~$21k. Tight steering (maybe too tight for some, but just the way I like it), good acceleration to get into traffic and fabulous gas mileage. I think the Koreans are on to something when it comes to adding value to vehicles without emptying your wallet. As for all the chatter about the Volt, I find it interesting the article is comparing it to an SUV and a mid-size and it still costs more. I am glad the American made Volt beat out the Leaf. I guess we are "queen of the pigs." :-) [Edited by: johntxx at 2/9/2012 7:57:49 AM EST]
amoshins All-Star Author Trenton Posts:957 Points:311,880 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 7:55:01 AM Ignore amoshins Report Abuse Interesting that Kia is #1 in economy & Audi #1 in luxury car total cost of ownership - who would have thought it?
Cakes77 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:3,494 Points:1,331,280 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 7:50:50 AM Ignore Cakes77 Report Abuse Is the quality there? Is it really a good value?
bullet226 Champion Author Toronto Posts:2,691 Points:529,940 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 7:50:02 AM Ignore bullet226 Report Abuse Better quality than crappy American product so why not!
ClarkSC Champion Author South Carolina Posts:1,260 Points:650,030 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 7:43:33 AM Ignore ClarkSC Report Abuse Agreed.
MrZarf Sophomore Author Baltimore Posts:103 Points:340,095 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 7:35:03 AM Ignore MrZarf Report Abuse Agree, with both cmptrmush and matman01. Interesting coverage on Volt, and its usually cheaper (in the end) to spend the money to fix problems when they first occur, or to prevent them in the first place.
cmptrmush Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,769 Points:378,920 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 7:32:22 AM Ignore cmptrmush Report Abuse I would imagine that how a car is maintained can vary the overall dollar amount considerably. I know a lot of people that don't take care of the maintenance when it is minor and cheap. They wait until their is a bigger problem and usually that also involves a larger cost.
matman01 Champion Author Detroit Posts:12,785 Points:1,609,530 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 7:29:01 AM Ignore matman01 Report Abuse I found it interesting that the Volt got so much attention in this article. It was even more surprising to see the praise from the author as there (unfortunately) are so many "haters"....if I didn't love my Escape as much as I do, there would be a black Volt in my driveway.